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And surprise doesn't have to mean you were oblivious to it happening, surprise can come from a a place of moral disgust at particular instances.

That kind of surprise is perfectly fine.

So when Panama papers, or NSA wiretapping, or Chinese espionage is revealed in tangible examples, if someone responds to it by saying "this is hardly a surprise," I think those need to be treated as cases of derailment and those need to be challenged.

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