Because even if a revelation is just a tangible example of something we more or less assumed was going on, it's good to have moments of tangible revelation to focus public interest.

It's important to have real reporting an examples to cite because those can be distinguished from armchair theorization. and it feels weird to even have to say this out loud, but distinction between a real example and a vague assumption that This Did Is Always Going On in important.

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I think the other thing about the concept of saying something's hardly a surprise, is that is stands in for a more general concept of urgency

So if the Panama papers are revealed, and people respond by saying it's hardly a surprise that there's financial funny business going on in the world, it just feels like an attempt to deflate the issue of a sense of urgency, when it should have a sense of urgency attached to it.

@abbenm I wish there were some effective way to attach the urgency of a new discovery to the knowledge that this has been going on all along

@shoofle
Yeah. I don't know if there's a clear and obvious answer, but I also might just be overthinking it and perhaps there just is a clear and obvious answer.

But the main thing, is that I welcome conversations centered on expressions of moral outrage.

One immediate comparison that popped in my head is when a murder gets reported in the local news. In some general sense, murders happening isn't a surprise, but we still have strong reactions when they happen, for good reason.

@shoofle
And of course local news coverage of murders is a problematic example for a number of reasons, but it was the most immediate and obvious example I can think of.

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