@clarkenciel never encountered that. but i've been taught windows, the whole Google cloud suite, matlab, various proprietary web services, microsoft + apple office suites, and much, much more

@cosine it's a stats software that a lot of psych departments teach, but it requires licenses so your knowledge is basically useless once you're out of an institution

@clarkenciel (gnu/linux, libreoffice, R or anything to be honest, [this one's fair enough], libreoffice again) if you're looking for alternatives

@cosine haha I'm fine, but my partner has bemoaned it many times. R ftw

@clarkenciel oh, and photoshop, flash, macos, and iOS

@hyper then why are we teaching it?

anyway, that is a very rare occurrence. usually people are either too steeped in the popular culture to find the free software alternatives, or too stubborn to accept them with their flaws

@celesteh @cosine But.. why? Are free software developers not capable of good UI design, or they just simply don’t care?

@minimum @celesteh @cosine

Both.
Design in general and UI design in particular is a craft, and FOSS is usually made by devs, not designers.
Caliopen took a long time to think about the design question and basically everybody was like "just show us some code".

@LaurentChemla