@codeawayhaley any diet that claims "this will make you thinner" is bunk. body size is a complex mix of mostly genetics and socioeconomic status, and only diet only plays a small role for a fairly small number of people. and even then, almost all diet research ignores setpoint theory, which says that bodies have a specific weight (+/-10%) at which they will hover, and that weight is not something that can be predicted charts or controlled by fad diets.

@ghost I don't like most approaches to weight either because most ignore location and lump all over a certain bmi in the same category when location makes a functional difference (subcutaneous is not linked with disease like viceral is), and many ignore the Leptin-Orexin Signalling system one of those two opposing hormones are always involved to some extent with weight gain out of the control of the individual.

@codeawayhaley body size variation is biodiversity. i don't think people like me should be eradicated from the planet, which is what most research along those lines is trying to do.

there is a significant amount of research showing that health outcomes are more improved by removing weight from the equation entirely. ("health at every size.")

https://haescommunity.com/

@ghost yeah, it doesn't matter the weight, with what i was saying in cases where it is unhealthy it isn't the weight, but where. Most people with mostly subcutaneous tend to be healthy regardless of weight, but viceral diposits is known to increase inflammation that leads health issues, and it often has something to do with Leptin and/or Orexin, with environmental factors. But yeah definitely agree with health at every size.