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I will never ever ever calls the cops. Doesn’t matter what kind of “what if” hypotheticals you throw my way to poke holes in my statement. Its against my principles to call on police or pretend that police have my or other humans best interests at heart.

"The police represent the most direct means by which the state imposes its will on the citizenry. When persuasion, indoctrination, moral pressure, and incentive measures all fair - there are the police."

-- Our Enemies in Blue by Kristian Williams

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Our Enemies in Blue 

One of the most immediate and unfortunate things that anti-police organizing encounters is liberals/bootlickers being like "well what defines force/brutality?" which is of course how killer cops or even rapist cops are rarely if ever indicted

because the lines between "excessive" force and "illegal" force and therefore brutality are always blurry, subjective, and easily thrown out of court by a judge (who could also be a bootlicker)

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Our Enemies in Blue 

"The state, claiming a monopoly on the legitimate use of force, needs to distinguish its own violence from other, allegedly less legitimate, uses of force."

and what do we have at the end of this? cops pointing guns at masked protestors who are confronting non-cop fascists, deeming community self-defense as an "illegitimate use of force"

"[For police], legitimate and excessive force exist as part of the same continuum, rather than as a distinct species of action."

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police violence and sexual violence 

reading anything about cops makes me think not of johannes mehserle or peter liang but of daniel holtzclaw, the east asian-white mixed race cop who systemically raped and sexually assaulted 17 black women in Oklahoma City

when i think of police violence i think about how that man was allowed to roam black neighborhoods of Oklahoma City and terrorize black women

THIS is why ACAB and abolish police and destroy white supremacy

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Our Enemies in Blue 

The thing is, the statistics about how frequently police kill unarmed people aren't enough to shock people into, you know, refusing to call the cops

Even with the rise of sites that map police violence against regular ol' people, theres still many more people who believe cops have the right to kill *shakira voice* whenever, wherever

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Our Enemies in Blue (abuse mention) 

There's a part where Williams compares how cops respond to police abuse and police brutality with the same rhetoric and patterns of response that abusers do to instances of abuse

again, little surprise that cops have the highest rates of domestic abuse

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Let's be real, my entire live-toot of Our Enemies in Blue will have a general CW for all the various violences that are associated with and done by the police.

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Our Enemies in Blue 

"Policing, it seems, is the only profession that both exaggerates and advertises its dangers... the overblown image of police heroism, and the 'obsession' with officer safety... do not only serve to justify police violence after the fact; by providing such justification, they legitimize violence, and thus make it more likely."

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Our Enemies in Blue 

I really like this book but unfortunately its not changing my mind about cops - I already hate them

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Our Enemies in Blue 

Why would "the state (meaning, here, the civil authorities)... let the police claim the means of violence as their own[?] Police brutality does not just happen; it is allowed to happen. It is tolerated by the police themselves, those on the street and those in command...

But why?

The answer is simple: police brutality is tolerated because it is what people with power want."

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Our Enemies in Blue 

"When the police enforce the law, they do so unevenly, in ways that give disproportionate attention to the activities of poor people, people of color, and others near the bottom of the social pyramid. And when the police violate the law, these same people are their most frequent victims... It must become quite clear that the object of police attention, and the target of police violence, is overwhelmingly that portion of the population that lacks real power."

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"So long as the police defend the status quo, so long as their actions promote the stability of the existing system, their misbehavior is likely to be overlooked. It is when their excesses threaten this stability that they begin to face meaningful restraints... Token prosecutions, minimal reforms, and other half-measures may give the appearance of change... but they carefully fail to affect the underlying causes of brutality."

- Our Enemies in Blue by Kristian Williams

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Our Enemies in Blue 

Ch. 2 is on the Origins of Policing which I'm p hyped to read about - it's always interesting to see how and where people/scholars/writers place the origin point of policing

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Our Enemies in Blue by Kristian Williams 

One of the most important things (to me) when discussing the police and how they developed into what they are today is how there are like.. two historical trajectories - one out of England (practiced on Irish people and def colonial) and one out of the US specifically designed to further subjugate enslaved black people

historicizing matters, y'all

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Our Enemies in Blue 

"The creators of the new police did not see themselves as marching inexorably towards an ideal of modern policing. Instead, they adapted preexisting institutions to the demands of new circumstances, evolving their systems slowly through a process of intervention and imitation... its direction determined by a variety of factors including political pressure, scandals, wars, riots, economics, immigration, budget constraints, the law, and sometimes crime."

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conflict resolution (slurs mentioned but not named) 

So in the computer lab just now, two men in their 30s - one black, one Filipino - were getting into verbal altercations and calling each other various homophobic and racist slurs, and another patron (white man) wanted me to call security on them, but luckily i knew both of their names and was able to be like "hey is everything okay? oh really, y'all are chill? can y'all not use that language in the library AND keep your voices down?"

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conflict resolution (slurs mentioned but not named) 

and just like that they apologized to each other and the situation diffused.

so there was no need to call security (or if the situation had escalated, the police) and its just lucky I knew their names

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conflict resolution (slurs mentioned but not named) 

and I *wish* that it could be a ~teachable~ moment to tell ppl about how words are violent etc etc but i know both patrons and one is perhaps not at his full capacity/in need of more support than I can give so really the best thing to do is remind him to just keep his voice down, that's all

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conflict resolution (slurs mentioned but not named) 

anyways i say all of this as a way to explain how the act of "calling security" should be avoided at all costs

nobody was in danger in this situation, people were just uncomfortable. everyone should feel comfortable in the library but also nobody should be punished by security for being loud in the library (loud and saying slurs)

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calling 911 

@mooncake shouldn't mean the cops show up when you request an ambulance or fire truck 😕

@mooncake disarm the police and military before disarming their victims

@mooncake @Cocoron
So what's a good alternative? Say what you will about the police, they're not going away unless there's a better option

Our Enemies in Blue by Kristian Williams 

@mooncake
For the full picture, don't forget the other vector, which is strike breaking. The history of the police is probably the most important/accessible intersection of colonialism, racism, and classism

Our Enemies in Blue by Kristian Williams 

@derpayatz unsure if Williams will address this but yes you're totally right!

Our Enemies in Blue by Kristian Williams 

@mooncake modern policing also has ties to strike breakers and union busting as well.

Our Enemies in Blue 

@mooncake on an unrelated note, it pisses me off that cops are often in the local library like a guard
Like
No one is going to steal free books, why are they even there?

Our Enemies in Blue 

.@captainRust cops are there in the library to harass and intimidate homeless folks, thats why
(or at least thats what happens in oakland)

LB: Good thread, worth reading.

Calling the police as a person with privilege, power, or whatever, doesn't ever really hurt you; calling them on less-privileged people could mean their deaths

@mooncake Happy pigs go to market, cops want to take you to market. I prefer pet piglets. Especially with post apocalyptic masks.

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